ARE THESE GROUPS LIKE INDYMEDIA OR WSWS REALLY OF THE LEFT AT ALL!

LEFT IS RUSHING TO SUPPORT TERESA MAY AGAINST GELLER AND SPENCER…NEW TERM OTHER THAN “LEFT” IS URGENTLY NEEDED

Teresa May banning of Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer

Consider this:

The left either is silent, as Indymedia Ireland.ie, or wsws.org, being only 2 examples

Some of the left such as the organisers of Harry´s Place are supporting May.

Or…put this in a different way…ALL either through silence or action are supporting the Tories and May on this banning

Geller and Spencer are not socialists but SO WHAT!

Karl Marx defended the Fenians and they were not socialists either. History is full of socialists defending people because those people were progressive.

May is on one side…with Islam

Spencer and Geller are on the opposite side…against Islam

WHAT IS THERE TO THINK ABOUT?

The biggest question of all though is not being addressed. Are they really of the left at all?

I would say not. Words and names do mean a lot.

So my comment on Indymedia Ireland calling for defence of Geller and Spencer AGAINST MAY is removed within minutes 2 days ago.

I think a new definition here is needed.

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NOW WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE ISSUE AN INVITATION TO ROBERT AND PAMELA TO VISIT IRELAND TO SPEAK AGAINST SHARIA!

The banning of Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, editors of Atlas Shrugs and Jihadwatch respectively, is a major warning to all of us, especially to workers and youth, above all to all Jews no matter where they live in the world, that dictatorship is very close. The right to free speech in today´s world is sacrosanct. This is exactly the same issue as the right of Ed Snowden to spill the beans on the massive spying by the American and British state machine on all of our phone calls. Pamela and Robert must be defended and so must Ed Snowden. It is totally an issue of our free speech and our rights to knowledge.

 

These two outstanding fighters against Sharia Law which indeed is based on Islam should be given a medal for their struggles for freedom. Instead the British state of the Tories and Labour has banned them.

 

Meanwhile the other main party the Liberal Democrats has already had in its ranks among the worst Antisemites on the planet.

 

The reason that Pamela and Robert should be speaking in Britain to British ordinary people, and join hands proudly with the English Defence League,  is that they have studied Islam and Sharia Law. The people of Britain truly need this knowledge now.

 

This is especially the case after young Lee Risby was butchered by two Muslims quoting the Koran on the streets of London just a month ago.

 

But Mrs May bans these two fighters against just that ideology that mowed down the young soldier, then started to butcher him. No doubt about it, she is joining in with the butchery.

 

Why Mrs May and Mr Cameron? What is the message you are giving the British people?

 

There must be a massive campaign now launched in America which must run along the lines of NO AMERICAN PERSON OF WHATEVER BACKGROUND OR POLITICS SHOULD EVEN THINK OF VISITING BRITAIN, ESPECIALLY AS A TOURIST SPENDING ANY MONEY IN BRITAIN.

 

What also is the position of the Irish state on this issue? Supporters of freedom in Ireland should immediately issue an invitation to Pamela and Robert to attend an arranged and planned meeting in Dublin to fight against Sharia and Islam. This will immediately test the Irish Government and whether Ireland is worthy to have US American tourists visit Ireland under any pretext.

BARRIE NATHAN DOES NOT LEARN THE LESSONS OF THE HOLOCAUST AND SUPPORTS STATE SPYING

Barrie Nathan on Talk Radio Europe yesterday argued that there is nothing to worry about in the Prism spying programme.

 

The discussion took place over 2 hours yesterday on the portal Talk Radio Europe radio station.

 

The callers in were a cross section of British people and they were divided over the issue. One a supporter of Portsmouth Football Team argued that the people need this type of surveillance, and more, and the more spying on us according to this “Gary” the better.

(But when people like Gary call for more and more state spying on the population and states that he does not mind because “he has nothing to hide” then he forgets that the jews in 1930s Europe were the most law abiding people on earth, but that did them no good against the Nazis.

It is exactly the same here. We do not know in politics how things are going to develop and whether all of our democratic rights will be taken away by a dictatorship.

Already the two completely law abiding citizens of America, Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, have been banned by the British Foreign Secretary from attending a meeting in Woolwich in two weeks time, and the reason for this is political, that they are opposed to the method and practice of Islam as contained in the Koran.

Thus gone, at the stroke of a pen, is the right to free speech, the pen wielded by the present elected government of Britain.)

 

Barrie Nathan also called Snowden a traitor. Nathan was the very centre and pivot of the discussion.

 

Why is what Barrie Nathan claims important?

 

The most important reason is that Nathan is Jewish and well known as Jewish, so he is linking this horrific spying to Jewish people. Is that not grand!!! The people who suffered most of all because of spying persecution by the Nazis namely the Jews here argues for it. Or at least Nathan is.

 

Before the Nazis rounded up the Jews and put them in holding centres prior to deportation to the death camps there was massive espionage on the Jews so that when the time came for them to be rounded up they were already identified precisely.

 

Barrie Nathan is not either intelligent or well read, especially about what is happening in current affairs. The big question about this massive spying by Obama and Cameron is that it is directed not at all against Islamic terrorists, but against ordinary people. Why do I say this?

 

I will limit myself to three things

 

  1. The US army major called Hasan who murdered his colleagues
  2. The Boston bombings
  3. The beheading in broad daylight of young Lee Risby

In the case of the major who murdered his colleagues in the American Army (mowed down 13 US soldiers while screaming allahu akbar on the Fort Hood military base in Texas in November 2009.)

 

Obama insisted that this not be called a Jihadist murder, but a “work-place murder”. Obama and Mrs Hilary Clinton have used this technique of whitewashing Islam from day one

 

In the case of the Boston murderers (the two Tsarnaev brothers) and maimers of good Americans the same pattern emerges… The information about these threats to life was already in the hands of the Obama regime. It did not come from the snooping. It came from two sources. First of all the Russian Government WARNED the US that they were Jihadists. Then the  Saudis did exactly the same BY LETTER. (Yes the Saudis do worry about Jihadists) But the US Government would not listen, would not hear of the threat from Jihad

 

Nip over the pond and look at the Woolwich killers. Here a soldier based at the nearby Woolwich barracks was beheaded by two machete-wielding assailants. Again they were so well known to the British that the British police actually had these Jihadists in their very hands and they were already spouting their hatred and plans to kill in the mosque, but that is exactly where the police in Britain are not allowed to spy inside. We do also know about Ken Livingstone and his support for Jihad in the form of support for Jihadist Qaradawi. Then Boris Johnson stopped any investigation of Islam and Jihad in its tracks. Cameron did the exact same.

 

All this information about these Jihadist murders was on the record, there to be acted upon.

 

It was not acted upon. Instead we are all investigated through spying techniques.

 

Keep in mind in all of this that although it is new technology there is nothing different to the Chile Coup, or the Nazi Holocaust. Before they acted they had the names and addresses.

 

They are covering for the Jihadists. The state covers for Islam which is a deadly and bloodthirsty ideology.

 

But as never before in human history…They are spying on us!

 

Those are the issues that Barrie Nathan did not raise in the Talk Radio Europe discussion. A copy of this article will be forwarded to Barrie Nathan. We will print his reply to us.

PUTIN LEARNS FROM LIBYA AND IN PROTECTING SNOWDEN SHOWS WILL NOT WEAKEN IN FRONT OF EMPIRE

In the conflict’s early months it appeared that Gaddafi’s government – with its greater firepower – would be victorious

 

 

 

 

NATO intervention: March–August 2011 (as told by Wikipedia)

QUOTE…”A week after the implementation of the no-fly zone, NATO announced that it would enforce it.[290] On 30 April a NATO airstrike killed Gaddafi’s sixth son and three of his grandsons in Tripoli, though Gaddafi and his wife were unharmed. Western officials remained divided over whether Gaddafi was a legitimate military target under the Security Council resolution. U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said that NATO was “not targeting Gaddafi specifically” but that his command-and-control facilities were legitimate targets—including a facility inside his sprawling Tripoli compound that was hit with airstrikes 25 April. However, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was captured on video calling for Gaddafi to be killed or captured and was later captured again on video celebrating the news of his death.[291]

 

 

 

pictures above…Need to emphasise this fact. Gadhafi was attacked by NATO, which is US and EU funded, when he had the Rebels at his mercy, and was moving on Ben Ghazi city. Above pictures is outcome of US and UK intervention.

 

The role of the two countries China and Russia in all of that is particularly important to understand. They went along with the “No Fly Zone” in the United Nations Security Council. Once they did this they opened the door to the war on Gadhafi, the murder of Gadhafi and all that has followed, which includes the murders of thousands of Black African workers who were in towns dotted along the Northern Coastline of Libya, yet China pretends to be the friend of Black Africa.

 

Putin and Russia must have put some faith in countries like the US and Britain, thinking or most likely hoping against hope that their intentions were honourable.

 

In that sense Russia was hoodwinked by these major powers, and this goes a long way to explain how Russia has emerged as the main opposer of the Jihadist crooks opposing Assad. Basically I think Putin saw what happened to Gadhafi, and learned very quickly that the Empire was particularly ruthless, a very cruel Empire, and that indeed Russia had to look after its own interests.

 

As I see it this extends on a very wide swathe of international political life and events.

 

This also moves into a very firm and righteous Russian nationhood feeling, which is expressed int he following:

 

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On February 4th, 2013, Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, addressed the Duma, (Russian Parliament), and gave a speech about the tensions with minorities in Russia:

      “In Russia live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws.  If they prefer Sharia Law, then we advise them to go to those places where that’s the state law.  Russia does not need minorities.  Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell ‘discrimination’.  We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation. The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of most minorities.

When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the national interest first

    observing that the minorities are not Russians.
The representatives in the Duma gave Putin a five minute standing ovation.
Notice that he considers that America et al is “committing suicide”
Yes he is right but this has to be viewed against the economic crisis worldwide!
Right across the board Putin has hardened his position towards what is rightly called “The Empire” with the US at its centre, Obama now a comical puppet.
Obama as a “puppet”, this view of Obama does not reach Europe as a whole, but more and more Israel sympathetic websites such as Breitbart, Atlas Shrugs or Jihadwatch are sure that Obama is a puppet, with the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR) being the puppet masters. This is a big development in Jewish consciousness which the Left Antisemites as in Indymedia, Counterpunch, fear greatly.
This also explains how somebody who has a great deal to fear (such as Edward Snowden) from the Empire is well advised to remain inside of Russia. Cuba may fall. Venezuela may fall. Equador may fall.
But the world is gearing up for very serious events which could indeed involve The Empire launching Nuclear War against Russia. But first it must try to weaken it…somehow!

US OBAMA AND MCCAIN WILL LEAD TO MASSACRE OF CHRISTIANS IN SYRIA

There is only the one choice in Syria and that is to defend the Syrian Government of Assad against the Jihad and Obama.

 

Israeli leaders and all Jews must do this. They have no other choice.

 

But this does not mean that Israel drops its defensive guard against Assad. Assad is in league with Jihadists of another sort, that is Iran and Hezbollah, so tapping in to the Sunni/Shia war against each other, with the Alawites typically forced because of their precarious position to manouvre for allies. Plus Assad and his Father disgraced the memory of their Grandfather who was not an Antisemite and indeed defended Jews and the Jewish Homeland concept.

 

There is much confusión on this. Read the hamas Charter and understand the history of what Hezbollah and its sponsor Iran is. They place the destruction of Israel top of the list.

 

It is likely that Iran and Hezbollah manouvre in Syria in order to créate better conditions to destroy Israel, and in their own words and chárter they are genocidal.

 

Israel must keep up its guard against Assad as long as he is allied with Iran and Hezbollah.

 

But that NEVER means Alliance with McCain.

 

The great crime of the Israeli leaders is that they do nothing and are seen to be on the side of McCain. The Israeli leaders even gave help to Jihadists at a border crossing. OK they say it was humanitarian help to wounded but it is not on to help Jihadists in any way.

 

The Israeli leaders around Netanyahu are real dopes.

 

McCain was interviewed on this morning´s BBC Paul Henley radio show and McCain likened the war against Syria to the war against the Serbs in Bosnia and Kosovo.

 

Indeed it is the same war. In Bosnia and Kosovo Clinton and Albright were fighting on the side of Jihad and against the Christian/Socialist Serbs.

 

It was necessary for socialists to defend Milosevic unconditionally, it is necessary for socialists to defend Israel unconditionally and against the Jihad it is necessary to defend Assad, just like Mubarak and Gadhafi, unconditionally.

 

Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch does not go far enough in the following but his position is still honourable.

 

The final pictures are our pictures from Bosnia and Kosovo, now becoming common.

 

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Obama-backed Syrian jihadists massacre Christian village population

duwayr6.jpgHow great it is that the U.S. is going to be aiding these jihadists. Syria will be cleansed of Christians in no time, and peace will ensue.

“Syria Militants Massacre Christian Village Population (Graphic Images),” from Syria Report, June 12 (thanks to Joel):

More details of a massacre in Homs late last month have emerged following the global outcry of a massacre in Deir el-Zour yesterday.The massacre, carried out by Free Syrian Army militants reportedly targeted men, women and children in the Christian village of al-Duwayr/Douar close to the city of Homs and the border with Lebanon. The incident received little media attention, having occurred at the same time as thousands of Syrian troops converged on the insurgent-occupied town of al-Qusayr.

According to sources, around 350 heavily armed militants entered the village, broke into homes and assembled residents in the main square of the village where they were executed. The final death toll is not known but photos show severe damage to property in the village.

Syrian army sources said that they reached the village after the massacre, resulting in clashes with militants. Sources also reported that Turkish and Chechen extremists were among the perpetrators. Chechen militants are known to have kidnapped two Christian bishops in Aleppo earlier this year. The following images show al-Duwayr/Douar village after the massacre:

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[Many more images here.]

Conditions for ethnic and religious minorities have been made increasingly worse as Free Syrian Army affiliated organisations including Jabhat al-Nusra increase ethnic and sectarian cleansing across Syria. Kidnappings, executions and assassinations are common.

Late last month, around the time of the massacre in Homs, a fifteen year old girl was kidnapped by militants in Damascus, who demanded $100,000 for her release. Miryam Jbeil, a niece Damascus-based Catholic priest Nader Jbeil, was released after a number of days in captivity.

miryam.jpgIn the aftermath of the Syrian army assault on al-Qusayr, the church was discovered to have been desecrated by Free Syrian Army militants…. [more photos here]

sinn-fc3a9in-and-the-anc-martin-mcguinness-nelson-mandela-and-gerry-adams.jpg“The true religion of our prophet Mohamed will be victorious over tyrants.”

 

 

Serb church burning in Mitrovica on Thursday
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1 of 11 A second day of clashes saw religious sites targeted – here in the flashpoint town of Mitrovica Albanian protesters managed to burn a Serb Orthodox church.
Rioting destroys ancient Serbian churches Last Friday, when Weblog noted a mob’s destruction of four churches in Nigeria, one loyal reader asked why it got top billing over the destruction of Serbian Orthodox churches. The answer is simple: At the time, Weblog was simply unaware of the extent of the demolition there.Apparently Weblog wasn’t alone. In a meeting with Patriarch Pavle of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Russian Emergencies Minister Sergei Shoigu noted that the world community has largely ignored last week’s violence, which left at least 31 dead and more than 500 wounded. Thirty churches, several dating back to the 14th century, were destroyed by ethnic Albanians. Another 11 were damaged.

“We remember well a wave of indignation over the destruction by Taliban troops in Afghanistan of the stone statue[s] of Buddha, because it was the destruction of cultural heritage,” Shoigu said, according to the ITAR-TASS news agency. But there’s no outcry over these attacks, though they’re just as damaging from religious, cultural, and historical perspectives.

Serbs apparently retaliated by attacking mosques elsewhere, including one from the 17th century.

The BBC has several photos, along with a good backgrounder of the complicated triggers of the attack, and the even more complicated history of conflict between the Albanians and Serbs. There’s much more than religion to this story, but it seems clear that churches were deliberately targeted and took the brunt of the attacks.

 

 

 

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/marchweb-only/3-22-31.0.HTML

 

 

 

 

OBAMA FOLLOWING PRISM AND ON SYRIA IS BECOMING TOTALLY RECKLESS WITH WORLD PEACE

Caroline Glick who is a patriotic Israeli Zionist writer, and is quite different to some of the jewish Neocons, has pointed out that Obama goes on the attack when he is being cornered.

 

This may be happening over the Syria issue.

 

 

The US is saying two contradictory things:

 

  1. That the Assad regime used Sarin to poison 150
  2. That they and he have no actual physical evidence, meaning no evidence

 

And my goodness, THAT is the pretext for war by America on Assad.

 

It is even more threadbare than the excuse or rationale for the bombing of Serbia for near 60 days by NATO which was the Racak massacre, which was easy to prove was a totally concocted affair

 

Remember that Prism was spying on billions of private transactions and if it was not for Brewster we would know nothing.

 

That is the great danger to us all

 

We do not know how the Syrian issue will proceed but it is certain that Russia must oppose this and we are very close into a Cuba missile situation.

 

It seems to me very unlikely that Assad would have used Sarin…ask who benefits? Assad has proved to be quite astute in all areas up to now.

 

Is the position of Obama becoming so exposed over Benghazi, over IRS and over Prism that he is becoming quite reckless?

 

If so, we have a situation racing quite out of control which will impact greatly on all of our lives

 

Felix Quigley

CRUNCH TIME…GELLER, SPENCER, SCHLUSSEL ALL COVER FOR OBAMA AND BUSH ON PRISM

 

BY FELIX QUIGLEY EDITOR OF themarxistblog

 

13 June 2013

 

The following Exchange happened between me and a guy called Nathan Thomas, an ex-American journalist, on a radio talk show on Talk Radio Europe

 

Me: The reason so many people are so mad about this issue is that they had no clue that this was going on

 

Nathan Thomas: Of course they didn´t, it was top secret  (!!!)

 

That seemed to sum up the circular argument people get into,  without the discussion on dictatorship and Sharia being founded on class and defence of liberty.

 

To the “journalist” Nathan Thomas it appears that no matter what happens to our liberty slap a “top secret” on it and we relax.

 

Nice one there Mr Thomas. But many are not one bit relaxed. Remember that before the Military Dictatorship rounded up the workers, trade unionists, rebellious youth and students in Chile, and before they shot the Stalinist Pacifist Allende in his “Palace”, THEY HAD THE NAMES. Before Internment in Northern Ireland THEY HAD THE NAMES!

 

It is very, very worthwhile to look at this situation closely.

 

As of yesterday that “great fighter for liberty” Pamela Geller and her Atlas Shrugs has managed ONE article.

 

This was fairly prompt, on the 6th of June, but ONE article from the great “beacon” of liberty. Whoaaa there, something stinks in the Atlas Shrugs operation. This great “fighter” for liberty against Sharia can produce ONE and NON-COMMITTED article on the greatest attack and threat to basic democratic rights IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND.

 

Hence I predict this is the end of Geller and Spencer.

 

At the same time (they are all in severe shock and crisis but why the shock!) I have sent this message to the Gates of Vienna which Dymphna and her husband runs:

 

“This Prism issue has Split the anti Sharia movement through the middle. You go ahead Dymphna, along with Spencer and Geller,  and trade your rights to privacy away to Obama and Bush but leave me out of your plans on that score OK”

 

Robert Spencer, that other great “fighter” for liberty, got an article together and Spencer makes two points, one that people who break the Official Secrets should be prosecuted, but this latest guy is different to Assange and Manning, because this latest guy is better described as a “whistle blower”. But if he is, then so is Assange and Manning. Conclusion Spencer is still tied to Obama!

 

I can also tell you that the website Israpundit chaired by Jewish Canadian in Israel Ted Belman has gone even better. Ted has ignored it. Very well done Ted! Always safety first! But remember how that slogan Safety First went down so well with the Nazis. Shame Ted!

 

(On Israpundit there is a Jewish guy called “Yamit82” and sometimes he tells the world he cares not a whit about the rest of the world, but the world is constructed in such a way that it will not leave him in peace, so like a hedgehog emerging from hibernation occasionally he crawls out of his Negev nest and notices that the world is still there, and still as Antisemitic as ever. That is the thing, Jews cannot afford to go into hibernation)

 

And so we go on the unhappy merry go round, and staring in the face of all of these people are the strident words of one Andrew McCarthy.

 

According to McCarthy Obama is just a right on guy doing his duty by organising the biggest invasion of all our liberties, since mankind first came on the earth 4 million years ago.

 

And this is the reality. If Belman, Geller and Spencer do not take on McCarthy and the NeoCons lead on Prism in in the most serious and far-reaching way, then all is lost for them. And they are all losing it as I speak. Debbie Schlussel is meeting opposition on her blog, open opposition, which was unthinkable months ago. This opposition is not from fascist Leftists like the wsws, it is from real opposers of Sharia, real active opposers of Sharia.

 

I can now predict that the anti-theory Tommy Robinson will take NO position on this Prism issue, because he places his relations with people like Geller before the truth. Result…end also of the EDL, for all practical purposes…they will linger on but are now really and truly finished. You cannot sit such an issue as Prism out.

 

In many ways they are all an echo of the Left Fascists such as on the wsws and on Indymedia Ireland, they are in support of the Jihad in a very particular way.

 

THE NEW SITUATION…HOW GELLER, SPENCER, SCLUSSEL ARE ON SIDE OF OBAMA…SNUGGLING UP BEHIND OBAMA ON PRISM!!!

 

To understand how they are it is necessary to understand two factors.

 

  1. 1.       There is a very serious crisis in the capitalist system and in order for capitalism to survive it has to go the road of Chile (murder of Allende and dictatorship) or capitalism will be swept aside by a resurgent and undefeated working class
  2. 2.       Islam is imposing its grip on vast sections of the world through a clerical fascist dictatorship under Sharia Law, and threatens the rest of the world where Muslims are in a minority of 5% or so, where it mobilises to create pockets of Sharia Law.

 

It is therefore a useful hypothesis to advance that our rulers in the western world are playing around with number (2) above to advance (1)

 

In other words our capitalist rulers are preparing for us in the western world dictatorship and are looking for Sharia to keep the poor (such as Nigeria) countries in subjection.

 

And nice touch…they are using Islamic atrocities like Boston and Woolwich (remember that blood covered meat cleaver) to advance the conditions for dictatorship.

 

And what are those best conditions for dictatorship

 

  1. 1.       Spying on us…know who are the leaders
  2. 2.       Make people think that spying on us is OK

 

It is all a big bluff by Hague and co.

 

THE STATE HAD THE WOOLWICH KILLERS IN THEIR VERY HANDS NOT THROUGH ANYTHING TO DO WITH PRISM

 

The above plot is blown wide open when we recall that they HAD the killers of Boston and Woolwich in their very hands many times.

 

Our rulers in the capitalist world have shown time and time again that they are on the side of Islam. They argue Islam is a religion of peace. They even have the people through mass media propaganda elect Obama, who is either a Muslim, or a Christian who sympathises with the Jihad against Israel, possibly a CIA operative if you follow the track with Ayers, certainly somebody who has facilitated the Muslim Brotherhood taking state power in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya.

 

Keith B. Alexander is a colourless army man and today the Obama junta is wheeling out this nonentity who tells the people that the mass invasion of our liberties had stopped thousands of attacks on us.

 

From Geller and Spencer…not a murmur on Alexander and the lies of Obama now coming out hourly on Prism

 

Finally a word to Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller. Let us start to discuss this issue, really discuss it. Your political credentials are now totally under question and we are watching closely.

 

Let us break this cabal apart and let the clear sunlight of the truth get into the cobwebs of the Neocons!

 

On the other hand the working class does not have leaders. These pernicious groups like SWP and WSWS are totally pro Islam along the lines of the reactionary Counterpunch and Indymedia, with Antisemitism and Israel hatred at their centre.

 

No advance is possible without new leadership.

 

Felix Quigley editor of themarxistblog 13 June, 2013