WE WERE RIGHT! WE DID DEFEND MUBARAK AND WERE CORRECT TO DO SO! TIME ALWAYS TELLS!

Italiano: Il presidente egiziano Hosni Mubarak...

Italiano: Il presidente egiziano Hosni Mubarak durante una visita al Quirinale, Roma. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

This high up Israeli leader in this interview disagrees with Yamit82 because Yamit argued that Israel should not under any condition defend Mubarak against Obama

Recently the Georgian freedom activist Joseph Zaalishvili interviewed the Israeli Deputy Minister of Interior Affairs, Knesset Member Mrs. Faina Kirshenbaum.

Joseph Zaalishvili: Do you think that the wave of protests that rose in Egypt could bring to power more extremist forces than came to the fore after the “Arab Spring,” or will the Egyptian military be able to keep the situation under control?

Faina Kirshenbaum: At first I can say that Israelis did not want to interfere in this situation. This is an internal affair of Egypt, a question of who will rule the country. As the saying goes, we are seeing the excitement of the processes that are taking place in that country.

We are very concerned about this situation because we have a long border with Egypt, we have for the last 25 years since the treaty was signed not a full-fledged accord, but there is silence and peace — a stable relationship. And for us that is very important.

We watch with excitement, for if more radical forces come to power in Egypt, they will not honor that agreement which was signed with Israel. And of course it is all connected with the axis of evil, which begins and ends with Iran in Syria. We see Hezbollah, which sided with Assad. And the number of people killed in Syria is over a hundred thousand. We are very concerned about why the international community does not take up this subject. Why not take measures to protect the civilian population? This week in Israel a 13-year-old girl who was wounded in Syria received treatment. Israel is helping the wounded, because it is humane.

Interview with Faina Kirshenbaum

This explains many things. One is that Israel cannot sit on the fence in these massive struggles around her as is advocated by Yamit and mates on Israpundit. That is the total bankruptcy of Yamit proved time and time again.

He leads Jews continually into traps.. BEWARE!

There was only ONE policy in Egypt and that was to defend Mubarak against the Muslim Brotherhood backed by Cameron and Obama from MINUTE ONE.

Bankrupt and useless for the Jewish people! These kind of people like Yamit talk big but at crucial points of crisis run like startled rabbits.

The only correct policy was a true Trotskyist policy and held only by our blogs www.4international.me and www.themarxistblog.com

Of course we have disagreements with MUBARAK but in that situation he had to be defended.

In fact the group wsws.org also refused to defend Mubarak. On the left we were totally alone in defending Mubarak.

There is no sitting on the fence as this top Israeli politician NOW realizes. But Yamit and others still do not get it. They never will.

LOOK AT HER WORDS TODAY:

At first I can say that Israelis did not want to interfere in this situation.

Of course not! She wanted life to be pleasant.

But there are times when you have no option. Because now the situation wants to interfere with her and with Israel.

You could say that www.themarxistblog.com did not want to defend Mubarak either but it was not a matter of likes and dislikes, but a matter of necessity, and it was surely necessary to defend Mubarak against the Muslim Brotherhood, and it would have been the same all those years ago…we would have defended Nasser in his decisión to hang Qutb, that leader of the Muslim Brotherhood whose ideas led on to Bin Laden.

Yamit covered up his political bankruptcy by making childish and ignorant attacks on “Trotskyism” but time always proves the truth.

We win! Trotskyism wins! Yamit loses!

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/07/israeli-deputy-minister-of-interior-affairs-if-we-have-no-other-choice-we-will-have-to-return-to-gaz.html

OBAMA MUST BE IMPEACHED AND PUT ON TRIAL FOR SUPPORTING MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

Discussion on Egypt has dried up on the Israpundit website.

I read the comments this morning on Jihadwatch on Egypt articles and what shallow comment.

Meanwhile if you turn to groups like the British SWP for comment on Egypt what can they say? They are called the left by Spencer and Geller but that is false and they know it.

As we said yesterday they are not socialist but Antisemites.

But why has Israpundit nothing to say about Egypt? Why are their collection of misfits posing as commenters suddenly dried up. It is because of the historic crisis of Jewish leadership.

Daniel Pipes is as Sharp an analyst as you find and here he is spot on. This crisis in Egypt points directly at Israel. Basically he says that as Hitler turned against the Jews using them at all times as a scapegoat so will the Arabs.

If so then why are these so called Jewish patriots on Israpundit suddenly not talking.

The answer to that is simple. People can talk and talk and talk and talk, But if they are filling their minds with totally bankrupt ideas when it comes to crunch time they have nothing of value to say.

that applies to all of these groups. Jihadwatch is now deeply affected by the crisis in Egypt. Spencer has no answer nor has Geller.

Meanwhile they continue to lie that these groups I have referred to, such as the SWP, are of the left. But that really is a lie.

This is one of the most grievous lies that there is on this planet today in political life. Spencer is either a fool or is a bit of a scoundrel. A few weeks ago Spencer made a claim that Lenin (who was a great leader in Russia) like the Islamists did not like music. You know, that kind of stuff. How could he get away with it throwing out such a lie? Really because on sites like Jihadwatch the people are either totally biased, not objective, or often just stupid in the sence of being ignorant. And they do not check up because if Spencer says Lenin is like Mohammed and hates music then that fits their bias.

But back to the present. As we said yesterday if the left is Antisemitic and not socialist or Marxist, then Spencer is in deep crisis re the events in the world, and getting more so.

EXTRACT DEBKA…Egypt’s Second Army armored vehicle in Cairo

 

A new Egyptian crisis arena:  the Egyptian and Israeli armies Friday, July 5, raised their alert levels on either side of the Sinai border after the Muslim Brotherhood declared Sinai its center of revolt and revenge for the Egyptian army’s ouster of Mohamed Morsi as president Wednesday, July 3.

Following a multiple Islamist attack in northern Sinai, the Egyptian army went on high alert in the Suez and North Sinai provinces. The Sinai border crossings to the Gaza Strip and Israel were closed. The army spokesman in Cairo denied declaring an emergency – only a heightened alert.

Israel has imposed a blackout on news from this tense region, but debkafile reports reinforcements were sent in Friday to boost the IDF units standing ready along the Egyptian border. Egyptian forces also shut down all three underground passages running from the mainland to Sinai  under the Suez Canal. Egypt’s Third Army was deployed to secure them, under the command of Maj. Gen. Osama Askar.

Further measures imposed for guarding Suez Canal cargo and oil shipping against possible rocket fire from central Sinai…

The above is debka analysis … the only thing worth reading today

The issue of Mubarak has been a total test of revolutionary politics and only we have come out with flying colours

In politics you have to defend each political position. You have to ask what if what you are doing will leave you in a worse position.

That happened totally with all of these Arab leaders called dictators, from Ben Ali, Mubarak, to Gadhafi.

If the position would be worse, do not proceed. You must actively defend  from the mob.

That was certainly the case with Mubarak, and it is also the case today of Assad.

It is not permissible to sit on the sidelines. You cannot sit on the fence.

Yet sitting on the fence is what the whole of the Israeli political life has done.

1. They did not defend Mubarak and they should have defended Mubarak to the very death

2. They slandered and attacked Gadhafi. Even Pamela Geller did this because I well remember his grizzly death by the Jihadists and Geller wrote “And good riddance too”.

A group which raises its voice is http://www.wsws.org.

But this is an Antisemitic grouping which flows from the Healy WRP.

The events in Egypt lead directly towards war with Israel. These Young people who overthrew Morsi are full of courage but rememeber that Egypt is still and will be a deeply Sharia country. Therefore what can the wsws say about anything, they are Antisemites.

The outstanding feeling in Egypt is war with Israel.

The central component is and will be Antisemitic.

The cement which holds this Antisemitism together is the Palestinian Narrative.

These Fascist Antisemites of SWP and WSWS etc. are for war against Israel

In relation to Spencer…Do not get us wrong on this. Spencer of Jihadwatch often has some important things to say, and he has great courage.

Spencer made such a good point a few days ago. He showed how many of those who talk about say the lies of El Dura (Richard Landes being one) said nothing at all about the lies in Yugoslavia against the Serbs, especially that Srebrenica was a massive hoax.

The whole situation is characterised by a total absence of clear leadership. Spencer can be insightful and courageous, but then how do you explain his lies and filth against Lenin, that Lenin was like Mohammed not liking music. That will follow Spencer to his grave. What a fool!

Back to Egypt! There was only the ONE policy direction from 2009 to 2011 and that was to defend Mubarak with everything.

That was NOT done and today we reap the consequences.

ONLY WE DID THIS…NOBODY ELSE…I MEAN NOBODY

Now there is only ONE policy. Not to stand aside but for the Army in Egypt to arrest all of the leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood and lock them up without trial. At the same time Obama needs to be removed and placed in jail to await trial because Obama is responsible for widespread war, and war directed against Israel is the certain outcome.

That is what all of this means for Spencer and Geller. The arrest and revolutionary trial of Obama is number one issue. But that would mean also the defence of Manning and Snowden and this they will not do. Despite their heavy breathing Geller and Spencer are no good at all.

EGYPTIANS MUST SUPPRESS NOW WITH MAXIMUM RUTHLESSNESS THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

Yesterday I rang the radio station Talk Radio Europe as it was live on air. It was 5past8 and it had begun transmission for the day. The Egyptian Revolution was in the air all over the world. But not in the studios of Talk Radio Europe. I asked Hannah Murray the presenter and Rob Humphries (son of BBC John Humphries) were they ignoring the Revolutionary Events in Egypt. They said they were ignoring it. Hannah Murray explained on air that the reason they were ignoring it was because her programme was “Entertainment”. Does this not sum up where we are at with the Media and with the discussion of what is happening in this sad and truly dangerous world. If you are an intelligent person male of female why listen to Talk Radio Europe? Why would you listen to the likes of Murray?

 

Themarxistblog makes these points about the revolutionary events in Egypt over the past few days. We will cover these issues:

 

  1. Obama promotes the Muslim Brotherhood
  2. What Hosni Mubarak represented in relation to the Muslim Brotherhood
  3. The role of Obama in the overthrow of Mubarak and thereby the promotion of the Muslim Brotherhood to power in Egypt
  4. The trap of parliamentary democracy
  5. The connection with Iran, Antisemitism and the Nuclear Bomb aimed at murdering all Jews
  6. The grave weakness and mistake of Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller in relation to these events in Egypt
  7. The reactionary use of the word “left” to describe groups like the wsws, SWP, Stalinist Communist Parties etc. since a better word is simply “groups claiming to be left but are in reality pro-fascist Islam”, Ken Livingstone also comes to mind
  8. The power of the Revolution among workers, youth and young women
  9. Build themarxistblog as the Trotskyist Alternative

 

No 1…Obama

 

It was Obama who set this in motion in a big way. But a word first about Clinton aiding the Fascist Islam in Bosnia, and Bush removing the secular Saddam Hussein in Iraq thus greatly strengthening the Iranian Mullah Fascists. But Obama was qualitatively worse even. Obama travelled to Cairo University the very centre of Sunni Islam in June 2009, and insisted that the BANNED Muslim Brotherhood attend with all rights. Obama was the Muslim Brotherhood man. Obama was the Morsi sponsor. No doubt! The youth and women of Egypt know it now!

 

No 2…Mubarak and Nasser

Mubarak stood in the same tradition as Nasser, both Army. OK they were a dictatorship but also a dictatorship aimed against Fundamentalist Islam. In that aspect of their politics despite being dictators THEY HAD TO BE DEFENDED AND SUPPORTED BY SOCIALISTS. Nasser tried to talk to Qutb, realised eventually after much discussion and cups of teas that he was really talking to Allah, and bravely executed Qutb the Fascist Ideologue.

 

No. 3 The dominant role of the US in field of utter reaction

These revolutionary events in Egypt come exactly at the same time as a plane carrying the PRESIDENT of Bolivia is turned back from flying over France and Spain. Why? Because the French and Spanish are now the slaves of the US Empire in their hateful and ruthless pursuit of freedom fighter American youth (only 29) Ed Snowden.

These events in Egypt and the utter devotion and courage of young Egyptian youth and women have meant that the Saudis and Arab Emirates are breaking with Obama and Qatar.

The Israeli leaders meanwhile are weighed down by the ideology of Judaism, Francisco Gil White notwithstanding, and are unable to do a simple dammed thing in a situation where they should be acting along with the youth in Egypt.

 

No. 4

This is the big lesson of parliamentary democracy (farce of). The Muslim Brotherhood won a majority because of US Imperialist backing, and because the Egypt countryside is backward, therefore pro-Sharia

Having won their majority, just, the Muslim Brothers Fascists were steaming ahead towards Sharia Law, and enslavement.

Lesson do not listen to those like the BBC who spout reactionary rubbish about democracy.

The only real democracy in Egypt comes from stopping Sharia

 

No 5

All the time Iran is building its Nuclear Bombs. Do not listen to the Pro Islamist WSWS and SWP. They are Antisemites who are supporting the Iranian Antisemites, simple as that!

 

No. 6

Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer

On the surface they seem or appear to be strongly anti-Jihad. Beware! Be careful!

 

Precisely here Spencer says he does not agree with the suppression of the parties of the Muslim Brotherhood behind Morsi. Oh what a wimp is Spencer! What an utter fool is Spencer! And what a trap for Egyptian youth and women!

 

No Spencer you utter utter fool. This is not a jolly old battle of ideas that is going on. This is a war a physical war.

 

In total opposition to Spencer themarxistblog says that it is vitally necessary to throw into prison all of the leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood, and in America a major campaign be launched for the IMPEACHMENT and imprisonment of Obama for aiding these Fascists, who can cause  the murder of the flower of Egyptian youth and women.

 

I wish the army would do exactly that. Will they? That is doubtful but thus necessitating a leadership to be built urgently that will do just that.

 

No. 7…a Mighty blow to pro-Fascist Islam! A mighty blow to Obama and Cameron!

In short the world has had a fantastic and important lesson in Islam. This is a Fascist ideology which Imperialism in its death agony uses. It uses soft talk and soapy words to win an election just as the Hitlerian Nazis, when they win the election they move to dictatorship. The women and youth of Egypt has stopped them and Obama and Cameron temporarily through the most stirring events of all our lives. But listen if you dare my dear Egyptian friends to the liberal crap of Robert Spencer and you will be in the same situation again. Do not listen to Spencer. Arrest the Muslim Brotherhood leaders, throw them in jail and throw away the key. No discussion with Fascists my dear Egyptian friends. No discussion got that!!!

 

And No. 8

The power of the Revolution and to build themarxistblog

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